CASHMAN: Everybody Loves Alex Jones

There was a report in the Rockwall Success from May 28, 1886, that went something like this: man plowing field discovers giant human skull.

The following week the same paper published another article claiming that a search party assembled, excavated the area, and revealed an “underground palace.” They claimed to have found a battle axe with a 12-foot-long handle and a pair of large sandals. A week later a third article appeared showing the team pushing further into the underground palace. The author of the articles, “Sam Slick,” wrote like a cross between Mark Twain and Edgar Allan Poe. It had a hint of believability, but his dramatic tone suggested parody.

Not long after the paper ran those articles, the Rockwall Success was sold, rebranded, and there were no more follow-ups about the skull or the giant’s lair. Some say it was a prank. Others say the skull was abducted by the Smithsonian—to suppress any evidence that giants once walked the earth. It’s also been reported that the portion of the entrance to the underground palace was filled-in due to structural hazards.

Well, eighty-eight years after the giant skull was supposedly plucked out of the ground, Alex Jones was born in Dallas, and he’d grow up in Rockwall, a suburb just outside the city. I’m not saying the two events are related—but the shades of truth, myth, skepticism, parody, and transparency seem relevant. (Rockwall also happens to be where Lee Harvey Oswald’s widow settled when she remarried.)

Regardless, there is something strange beneath this town. What appears to be an ancient rock wall does run below ground. The original part of this underground wall was discovered in 1852 by accident. Even the official timeline of the wall and all who’ve studied it show a back and forth of explanations that range from it being a natural formation to the theory that it was built by ancient man. Some believe it’s a series of sand dykes that just so happens to resemble manmade symmetry. Others claim giants built it—more specifically, the Nephilim—an ambiguous Hebrew word variously interpreted to mean giants or fallen angels. Others believe the rock wall is evidence of an ancient city built by early man and that the wall was a defense against “cannibalistic giants.” And there are those who say the rock wall is an ancient landing pad for UFOs.

I thought for sure Alex Jones would have an answer.

When I asked him what he thought of the wall, he said, “I don’t think anyone knows what it is. It’s a mystery.”

As scientists and historians and professors continue to debate the nature of the rock wall, I would like it to be known that we can’t yet say conclusively that Alex Jones was not raised on top of a lost city with a graveyard of ancient giants.

Alex did tell me that his first encounter with corruption and hypocrisy within the authorities took place in Rockwall.

It happened in high school. He’d gone to a party and saw an off-duty cop delivering ecstasy to kids. Sometime later, he’d see the same cop at his school doing an anti-drug event.

“I thought that was bullshit,” Alex told me.

When he was 16, the Rockwall police pulled him over. They found a six pack of beer in the car. When they said they were going to give him a drug test, he told the cops they were corrupt.

His father was a dentist, and the family seemed to have put roots down in the town, but they decided to leave for Austin.

“There was too much trouble in Rockwall,” Alex said—referencing his young rebellion against the local authorities.

In what seems like an early landmark in Alex’s pattern of questioning that which seems off-limits and being proven right, the sheriff of Rockwall County was eventually arrested for corruption.

I’ve come to the rock wall in Rockwall, TX as Alex does an “emergency broadcast” from Steven Crowder’s studio about half an hour away. Alex’s voice boomed through my phone speaker as I toured the wall, the baseball field, the lake, and the old windmill outside of the Rockwall Historic Society.

Alex was talking about a pair of “witches” who were caught on video eating a dead deer in the woods.

I wondered if the video is even real—my gut instinct thinks everything is a prank—but I’ve also had my fair share of interactions with people who claim to be witches who’ve done blood rituals on battlefields and performed hexes in attempt to harm people.

Alex might be known for exploring the darkest aspects of humanity on his show, Info Wars, but today’s emergency broadcast was particularly grim. There’s despair in his voice when he told callers where he thinks the safest places in the USA will be should society fully collapse, when he said America is under Nazi rule, that tyrants are in control. He predicted someone is going to attempt to assassinate President Trump. It’s part warning, part eulogy.

Despite today’s bleak message, he is capable of humor—especially self-deprecation. The first time I met Alex Jones was in June 2021. We were all standing outside at Tim Pool’s studio when a hummingbird floated down from the sky and hovered over Alex’s head. He made eye contact with the bird and without hesitation said, “It’s a drone!”

I’ve also seen him delve into his unabashed love of music. It was around August 30, 2019, when Alex couldn’t stop talking about how much he loved the new Lana Del Ray album, Norman Fucking Rockwell. I think he admired the way Del Ray made something vintage, beautiful, romantic, oddly patriotic, absurd, and rebellious.

Meanwhile, in Rockwall, Texas, there’s a beautiful blue sky, and Alex’s voice cut through like a storm cloud shouting, “I’m gonna go down with the ship.”

For those who might not spend every day excavating the news or tuning into Info Wars, Alex Jones might seem to be talking about a nightmarish planet that must be one man’s paranoid delusion. But, by the time I landed in Austin yesterday, these were the breaking stories across the corporate media outlets: A UFO whistleblower said the U.S. government had non-human spacecrafts; the “world’s spy chiefs” were meeting in Singapore to discuss the “international shadow agenda;” Ireland is planning to slaughter 200,000 cows for climate change; an extinct species has been discovered that seems to have buried their dead 100,000 years before any known homo sapien burials, and New York was cloaked in a reddish fog from nearly 500 Canadian forest fires.

Back in my hotel room, there’s a copy of USA Today. I take apart the paper and spread it across the bed. 

Most people are used to the old school newspapers or the way we scroll through a story on a website. There is quite a gap between the way formal, corporate-looking news is presented versus with the way Alex presents the news. Alex can say something that sounds outlandish like, “Barack Obama was raised by a transgender nanny in Indonesia”— and you might flinch at the absurdity of that statement—until you look it up. He knows he sounds unhinged to some people, which is why you’ll notice him constantly telling people to look something up, research it themselves, or say something is “well-documented” after saying something that seems unreal.

Looking at USA Today while listening to Alex Jones is like experiencing alternate realities simultaneously.

The way we all argue over reality is a lot like the rock wall below this town. We can agree that something weird is just below the surface. We can stare at the wall, or a skull, or an article, and walk away with completely different interpretations. Some will say it’s real. Some will say it’s fake. Others will ignore it. Others will let the mystery be.

In the morning, I met Alex back in Austin at the Info Wars studio. We sat across from each other at a conference table where he’d typically sign books.

There’s a Darth Vader helmet propped on top of a vintage Zenith stereo in the corner of the room. Vader’s wearing an Indian headdress, and Alex’s name is written in beads across the headband. A fan made it. And Alex found the stereo one day on the side of the road. He thought the headdress and the old stereo complimented each other.

“It’s a piece of artwork I put together,” he said—as the Vader mask stared at us.

A giant book was on the table between us—Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment by Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich, and John Holdren

“Why is it important for people to know about Paul Ehrlich?” I asked. (Alex had mentioned him briefly on a show we did together recently.)

“Ehrlich and Holdren were Obama’s science czars [and] developed the plan to put fluoride in the water to lower fertility, lower IQ, remove iodine, and just, you know, basically weaponized society and culture to flatten the curve of human population and then phase out most humans in general… They promote using fluoride in water to control populations in this book… They didn’t develop the original plan that started in 1947. This is from the 1970s.” (Holdren has denied promoting depopulation agendas.)

By the original plan, Alex means how the U.S. government decided to dose public water with fluoride. Their reason for doing so was to save the American people money and prevent cavities.

(Elon Musk happened to tweet out that he despises Paul Ehrlich as I was preparing to publish this story.)

“Did you and your dad ever talk about fluoride?” I asked, considering his dad’s a dentist.

“He kind of halfway believed it because he thought it was sodium fluoride and believed [in the] system until, I guess 25 years ago. He’s didn’t realize that it was a toxic waste—not just hydrofluorosilicic acid.”

Alex said he believes that the chemicals really got bad in our water after the atomic weapons program. He said he thinks the authorities “looked at all the stuff in the water and called it a nutrient.”

I asked him to expand on what he was saying yesterday—about the United States of America being under Nazi control.

“When I call it Nazism, the Nazis were just an offshoot of the eugenicists. That was Francis Galton in the 1850s. And the Wedgewoods and the Huxleys and that whole group of families were the scientific elite in England. And they were getting government grants and funding through the different commissions and the Royal societies to develop systems of control. They were commissioned to develop machines to track and control humans, which they basically coined the term biometrics. They developed these ideas and, you know, by the 1890s, they had theories about discovering the matter of the universe and created what they described as atomic weapons and also got into discovering the secrets of what makes up humans and the whole search for DNA. Yeah, so you really have to hand it to these people, they’ve got massive funding.”

“I’m also thinking that Nazis in the World War II sense literally took over because I think of something like Operation Paperclip,” I said.

“All these Nazis were brought in by Allen Dulles and the CIA. That’s all well documented, on record. But in Nuremberg, the Nazis cited the kinds of elements that you’re gonna get some inspiration for the Cold Spring Harbor eugenics facility in New York, which was Rockefeller funded… The Nazis are just the National Socialist Workers Party. But that’s just a brand of the system we think of, and then the Nazis were a spin off. Because they went after certain groups, but the eugenicists want to go after the general civilization, period.”

“Is this where someone like [Paul] Ehrlich comes in?” I asked.

“Yeah, they treat them like rockstars at the congressional hearings whenever Paul Ehrlich or John P. Holdren or any of those guys go there. And of course, you can pull up Ehrlich early in the 70s, Ehrlich saying something like: ‘We’re gonna make men look bad on TV as father figures, we’re gonna break the family up, and we’re gonna start incentivizing not having children, the children that are there will control the state…’  They just want to play God and to do that they got to dumb us down. And it’s a natural inclination of the industrial wealthy society become decadent. So, it’s made their job really easy, but the truth is, they’ve become very decadent as well. Who puts them in the position even if you go along with their really twisted ideas of playing God? Prince Charles says there’s too many of us. Prince Philip says he wants to come back as a virus. It’s ridiculous.”

(The full Prince Philip quote is: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”)

“Speaking of population control,” I said. “I was at the [Georgia] Guidestones right before they blew up. Afterward, I ended up talking to the guy who collected the debris. He loves the Guidestones. He’s got a museum down there dedicated to granite. Anyway, I asked him about the theory that the Guidestones were connected to the idea overpopulation. He got a little offended. But later in the conversation he tells me that his favorite book is Daniel Quinn’s, Ishmael.”

“Oh, wow,” Alex said. “I’m a Gorilla!” (A reference to an early appearance Alex made on Timcast IRL where they happened to be talking about Ishmael.)

I reminded him that CERN was switched on that same week the Guidestones exploded. Shinzo Abe was also assassinated that week.

“But back to the people playing God, what do you think their goal is with all of this?” I asked.

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